苹果回应Dash争议

吉姆Dalrymple,Dash / App Store的事情:

Apple’s anti-fraud team has apparently been working with the developer for some time to stop fraudulent positive reviews, and negative reviews on competitors’ accountsAccording to Apple, all attempts to work with the developer have failed, resulting in the account being terminated.

“Almost 1,000 fraudulent reviews were detected across two accounts and 25 apps for this developer so we removed their apps and accounts from the App Store,” Apple spokesperson, Tom Neumayr, said in a statement provided to The Loop on Monday“Warning was given in advance of the termination and attempts were made to resolve the issue with the developer but they were unsuccessful. We will terminate developer accounts for ratings and review fraud, including actions designed to hurt other developersThis is a responsibility that we take very seriously, on behalf of all of our customers and developers.”

It’s really important to note that this has been going on for quite some time — it’s not a quick decision that Apple made on the spur of the moment last weekIn fact, a warning was first sent to the developer two years ago, but the behavior did not change.

我一直告诉来源在苹果,它不是短跑,这是一个非常受欢迎的应用程序(和理所当然地)从相同的其他20多个应用程序开发人员,他显然发表不同开发人员通过一个或多个账户我认为这背后的开发者社区已经上涨的一个原因开发人员占短跑没有与之关联的其他应用程序现在这个故事是打破,开发者社区发现一些这些应用程序他们中的大多数是通用的消费者效用的应用。

我和Dalrymple诡辩的标题:“苹果对短跑争议证据”苹果公司称他们有证据,但是他们没有表现出来——这是苹果的词对开发人员的的一部分,我认为,苹果不愿透露他们的反欺诈系统是如何工作的它的一部分,是,他们想保护他们的隐私与开发人员沟通这些年来,他们一直在指责他欺诈坦率地说,苹果不想粘他例如,请注意,他们并没有解决他的名字发表公开声明。

苹果通常允许这样的指控苹果没有赢家,publicity-wise:一个指控站回答和苹果App Store是运行像一个香蕉共和国,但如果他们争执,他们面临数百亿美元的巨人冲下来的光学与一个小的独立开发者这个案子有了足够的重视,我认为他们觉得他们必须回应太多的开发人员认为苹果是任性地,事实上,据苹果,这是多年的争端的顶点。

一方或另一个躺在这里And Apple is adamant that it’s not them.

在网络上

Marco Arment:

I’m glad our community assumed the best of another developer and pressured Apple to justify this severe actionWe should now accept that they have.

The public often doesn’t get the full story behind decisions and changes they see, but it’s usually not for sinister reasons — it’s often just someone taking the high road and letting another party save face.

布伦特西蒙斯:

苹果州近1000欺诈性的评论were detected — and that they’d given the developer notice and had tried to resolve the issue with him.

If this is true, then it would be hard to say that Apple has done anything wrongIn fact, we want Apple to notice fraudulent reviews (since they harm consumers and other developers), get them removed, and work things out with the developer.

重大更新

Dash开发者Bogdan Popescu回应:

What I’ve done: 3-4 years ago I helped a relative get started by paying for her Apple’s Developer Program Membership using my credit cardI also handed her test hardware that I no longer neededFrom then on those accounts were linked in the eyes of AppleOnce that account was involved with review manipulation, my account was closed.

I was not aware my account was linked to another until Apple contacted me Friday, 2 days after closing my accountI was never notified of any kind of wrongdoing before my account was terminated.

What Apple has done: on Friday they told me they’d reactivate my account if I’d make a blog post admitting some wrongdoingI told them I can’t do that, because I did nothing wrongOn Saturday they told me that they are fine with me writing the truth about what happened, and that if I did that, my account would be restoredSaturday night I sent a blog post draft to Apple and have since waited for their approval.

The story, as best as I can figure out: there are two developer accounts tied to the same credit card, bank account, test devices, and “com.kapeli.*” bundle ID根据Popescu non-Dash账户由他的一位亲戚,和Popescu不知道审查欺诈他们承诺不知道苹果认为账户与自己有关,一个用于冲刺。1苹果的反欺诈警告都给帐户由Popescu的相对控制,根据Popescu,他从未通知,由苹果和他相对的双方争论,其中一个账户是参与应用程序商店检查欺诈。

Popescu说他的反应通过发布录音电话的苹果代表Popescu没有为他带来任何好处首先,它是一个背信罪但另一方面,我认为苹果在这个记录他们向后弯腰给Popescu另一个机会,恢复他的帐户。

Marco Arment,更新:

We don’t know what happened between that call and Apple’s statements tonightI’m guessing Popescu and Apple couldn’t reach an agreement over the wording of the public story, but I think what Apple asked for in that phone call was extremely reasonable.

似乎Popescu不知何故抢走失败下巴的胜利一个奇怪的故事引起了很多陌生人我不明白的是为什么今天苹果上市,尽管Popescu声称打发他们周末声明草案,从来没有听说过。

马特Drance:

Apple developers: the only thing you know right now is that you don’t know everythingThat is the only lesson from this Dash mess.


  1. 如果像Popescu声称这两个账户是由两个不同的开发人员,这就可以解释极端的质量差异帐户,提交审查出版许多欺诈,嗯,看上去相当廉价应用的实用程序其他账户只发表两个应用:破折号Mac和iOS,两者都是杰出的质量和效用显然是间接的和主观的,但一个帐户看起来像一个小商人,另一个看起来像开发人员具有较高的完整性。↩︎